Fantastic idea (I'm referring about the book) It remind me Digital Art Masters - great works commented by great masters. Hope this start will end similar, into a nice book. Therefore should be more variations, I mean not only the standard exterior / interior visualization, but artistic environments, etc... Btw, it was very exciting to read first session, and I'd prefer to be longer rather then shorter. Waiting for more.
I personally think that a book like this is an excellent idea.
And an excellent opportunity to learn more.
The length should not be a problem anyone is free to decide whether to read it all, in part or only a few words. I think it's nice to have the opportunity to take time to read something longer than strings news by which we are daily bombarded on the usual social networks, I think this is something different and therefore " a hurray for the length!"
This is a fantastic idea!
Think that the length of the article is fine and as others have said, I could have read more.
I think adding just the key comments as bullet points at the beginning of the article/section would allow the reader to choose between a long or short version.
The repetition of some of the comments is not necessarily a bad thing. It helps to distinguish between those points that are personal and those that are more important/fundamental in terms of composition etc. I guess this is what will be distinguished by the Personal/Tech separation mentioned earlier.
I also agree with kerenM, more visual reference would be beneficial in the same way Ronen has used sketches, ref images at the beginning.
Thanks to Ronen for such a great site and resource and that to the BrainTRUST for sharing.
A very good article and a really great idea!
I personally did not mind the length so much, just the fact that it was repetitive. In other words, I would love the same length if it was all new information.
I would also suggest more images to accompany the critique. pictures, sketches or any other visual reference that can illustrate some of the comments. I really liked the way Ronen did that.
Anyway, good work! I am really exited about that and waiting for the next one.
Just wanted to share my point of view on the matter. I love the idea! It's a great initiative everyone can benefit from. Can't wait for the next one.
In my opinion the length is good... we shouldn't impose any limit on what BrainTRUST members can say (so we can get more from them!).
No one said we have to read it in one go. Instead, at the top or bottom of each of comment, I would add some main points of the whole comment so someone can choose to read the full version or just the main points.
All in all, thank you Ronen for this blog and your ideas!
Personally, thought I finished reading this way to quick. In other words I could have happily read more.
This short article was for me, far more valuable than any book I've picked up before.
Good work guys.
And it really does push home that it's all down to personal tastes.
A lot of agreement and a some contrasting views. And good list of 'TRUST members', people who have proved themselves in this field makes it that little bit more valuable.
If I had to make one change to it. I'd get all the guys to submit their critiques and then provide unique responses only. The repetition in some responses could have been eliminated if you wish to make it shorter.
But again I personally thought this was fine and definately looking forward to more :)
Nice articel! Very helpfull to evaluate own work to! Which point to look at to make you work better, excellent new touch to improve your own visualisations!
Thanks for all the people who C&C!
Finally, the first session. Members showing top notch kungfu moves.Taking notes and trying to absorb it all for now.Its a great image to start with, but the sketches alone really show there's even more to squeeze out.
that's really cool. Nice thought to have this kind of sessions. Good insights, though some of them are rather influenced by personal taste. But I do enjoy reading this. I do think that it would be valuable to split c'n'c into technical and artful (first being harsh and very concentrated and second one as an oppinion, diferent point of view =)
Overall it was a pleasure to read, thought the article IMHO is way to long. Three 'judges' are more than enough.
Looking forward for new stuff! One more thing to wait!
Thanks for the feedback tom, it was very clear to me that the first session will be a trial run as far as the presentation itself goes.
I felt it might be too long, but wanted to publish it as is for now to test the ground... so please, anyone with further feedback on this, do post here as a comment.
I like the Tech / Personal separation... The feedback will always be personal based on the specific artist experiences, but doing this separation in the editing is something I'll implement in the next session.
Awesome article :) So much informations !!
I like long articles like that one, with several points of view so it didn't bother me to read it !
But I must admit it is long ! Maybe make some sort of recap list at the begining mixing pros/cons/"how to improve" of every artists, quick to read, and going straight to the point.
But I would find it a pity if the opinion of everyone must be shortened.
it's good to see the progress. Without exploring different path You will not find 'the right one' =)
Anyway, It was too long to read (imho), but I have to admit, really interesting!
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